Led Zeppelin Database - 1977 Low Gens

supposed to be from different night

taped by Terry Coppage (Sony TC-55>external mic>master cassette) (at least two clones are available: one clocks at 180:21 while the second at 178:59)

Panasonic recorder>master cassette>1st gen cassette, Trampled Underfoot cut at the beginning (recorded from 12th row)

Trampled Underfoot cut at the beginning (recorded from 12th row)

w/complete Trampled Underfoot (still suspended) (recorded from 12th row)

master cassette (the lenght is quite suspended)

master cassette>1st gen reel

1st source, master>1st gen Maxell XLII60 cassette

2nd source (available as a 1st gen that has has better low end and fullness and also has correct speed (clocks at 62:33) and as a master cassette>1st gen cassette that runs a bit fast and is brighter with better highs (clocks at 59:09))

color amateur video with actual sound

1st source, 1st gen cassette

1st source, missing Rock And Roll

2nd source (Darrin Muggli?)

2nd source, 2nd gen cassette

color amateur video without actual sound

cannot be sure if master really exists

master>1st gen cassette>2nd gen 120 minute cassette (also available as Presence (Jason Peterson) clone)

1st source, master>1st gen>2nd gen>3rd gen cassette (also available as Presence (Jason Peterson) clone)

2nd source, 1st gen cassette

taped by Roy Nall (aka BonhamFan), master cassettes>1st gen taper's back-up cassettes

master cassette>1st gen Maxell XLII reels. The owner of 1st gen copy said that these reels were lend to him by another guy. That guy noted: "[ hidden ] and I would coach the Seattle Kingdome video director [ hidden ] on songs to be played at upcoming major shows. Basically he was 'studying up' on song placement and solos to be expected. Having worked at both the Superdome and in Cleveland, N. W. had friends at other venues. He simply asked a friend working the show in Cleveland to get him a copy of the show and fire it off to us in Seattle. The guy brought in his home deck, walked up to the board, and being on the crew they plugged him in. Just that simple. These reels are a direct copy of the master cassettes done in the early 1980’s on a brand new Akai GX-77 reel deck using Maxell XLII tape at 7.5 ips and the rare EE equalization that the tape required. I personally have a better trust in this source than I do in the actual masters now. The masters still exist, but they aren’t going in the mail, and after so many years I just think that 7.5 ips quarter inch reels are the best way to go." Also reported that these reels were used during the 1977 tour by the sound team for many soundchecks. (also available as Presence (Jason Peterson) clone)

cassette, not confirmed it is really a master or not and also runs a bit slow (the reason for cuts is because taper only had 60min. tapes)

runs a bit slow (master cassette>1st gen cassette>2nd gen cassette) (also available as Presence (Jason Peterson) clone)

Available as a 2nd gen cassette that runs a bit slow (clocks at 179:14) and as a 2nd gen with a fuller sound and correct speed (clocks at 172:37).

1st source, taped by Terry Coppage (Sony TC-55>external mic>master cassette)

1st source, taped by Terry Coppage, runs a bit slow? (1st gen cassette)

2nd source (the lenght should be longer so it's supsended if real master really still exists or it's due to the old transfer as 2nd gen)

2nd source, master>1st gen cassette>2nd gen cassette (this a new 2007 transfer - the old transfer is February 2004 and clocks at 165:16)

color amateur video with actual sound (the official DVD has a snippet of this clip in the credits video)

color amateur video without actual sound

2nd source, 1st gen cassette>2nd gen cassette

3rd source, 1st gen cassette>2nd gen cassette

Phillips handheld w/int cond mic>TDK D120 master cassette

Philips handheld w/int cond mic>TDK D120 master cassette

monitor mix (master>1st gen cassette) (also available as Presence (Jason Peterson) clone)

Philips handheld w/int cond mic>TDK D120 master cassette

Taped by Randy?, Phillips handheld w/int cond mic>Maxwell master cassette. Some sources reported to be not from the master. There is another version of this master thats 17 seconds longer. Also it was told that the far better quality is due to the better tapes than all three Landover shows, runs a bit slow.

1st source, Cal's source

2nd source, John T's source

3rd source, Aiwa mics>Marantz master cassette

1st source, Artie's source (Sony TC-120 cassette) (reported to be not the master)

1st source, Artie's source

2nd source, runs a bit fast

1st source, Type II cassette (the lenght is very supsended, it could be clocks at 189 mins.)

2nd source, 3rd gen cassette

1st source, Artie's source (1st gen cassette) (originally it was taped on two separate cassettes and each side has a large amount of blank space after recording, but music clocks at 184 mins.)

2nd source, 1st gen cassette

3rd source, cassette

color amateur video with actual sound

1st source, Panasonic RQ314S w/built-in condenser mic>TDK C-120 master cassette

2nd source, Type I cassette (Sean is the owner of this low tape)

3rd source (2nd gen cassette) (originally it was taped on two Maxell XLII 90 cassettes and each side has some amount of blank space after recording, music clocks at 175 mins.)

3rd source, 2nd gen cassette>3rd gen VHS. The owner of the tape repaired channel problems in No Quarter and Ten Years Gone by turning the missing sections into mono.

color amateur video with actual sound (the end of Heartbreaker is available here with both picture and sound while there is no audience recording circulating for this part of the show)

1st source, Artie's source (available as a Sony TC-120>master cassette>1st gen cassette (clocks at 190:39) and as a Sony TC-120>master cassette>1st gen cassette that is much clearer and 4 minutes shorter (clocks at 186:32))

1st source, Artie's source (Sony TC-120>master cassette>2nd gen cassette

2nd source, taped by Tom Stanko (the old transfer had speed starts off good but goes slower as the show progresses but newly clone by Presence (Jason Peterson) has proper speed and is a big improvement over the old one). Per taper Moby Dick, Guitar Solo, Achilles Last Stand and Heartbreaker were recorded but they have been lost immediatley.

color amateur video with actual sound

2nd gen AXIA PS2 high bias 90's cassette (sounds a bit brighter with more bass but also more distant than 1st gen)

Type I Cass (it slightly better than the 2nd gen and has alos a much better high end and runs fast)

1st move, color amateur video with actual sound (Whole Lotta Love and Rock And Roll are not available on any audio bootleg while here we have them with both picture and sound)

2nd movie, color amateur video with and without actual sound

taped by Mike Millard (AKG mics>Nakamichi Deck>master cassette)*

taped by Mike Millard (available as a AKG Mics>Nakamichi Deck>master cassette>1st gen cassette straight from a guy that purchased the 1st gen cassette from a close friend of the taper (clocks at 157:15), as a AKG mics>Nakamichi Deck>master cassette>1st gen VHS (clocks at 161:13) and as a AKG mics>Nakamichi Deck>master cassette>1st gen VHS (clocks at 161:48) - both 1st gen VHS clones are more distant and mudded than 1st gen cassette)

taped by Mike Millard

1st source, called Mike Millard source (AKG mics>Nakamichi Deck>master cassette)*

1st source, called Mike Millard source (AKG mics>Nakamichi Deck>master cassette>1st gen Maxwell XLII 90 cassette

1st source, called Carl Gabe source (cassette)

2nd source, called Barry Goldberg source (cassette)

3rd source, called E. F. source (cassette)

color amateur video without actual sound

1st source, original master tapes have been lost (the first two songs have some channel problems)

2nd source, called Mike Millard source (AKG mics>Nakamichi Deck>master cassette) (reported that the show is incomplete because Mike forgot to press record until Since I've Been Loving You)*

2nd source, called Mike Millard source (AKG mics>Nakamichi Deck>master cassette>1st gen VHS) (reported that the show is incomplete because Mike forgot to press record until Since I've Been Loving You)

3rd source, called Carl Gabe source

4th source, called Barry Goldberg source (cassette)

6th source (can merely be a mislabeled version of one of the other known sources)

7th source, published by Presence (Jason Peterson)

1st movie, color amateur video without actual sound

2nd movie, color amateur video without actual sound

called Mike Millard source (AKG mics>Nakamichi Deck>master cassette)*

called Mike Millard source (AKG mics>Nakamichi Deck>master cassette>1st gen VHS) (at least 3 different 1st gen clones are available and the speed varies a bit between them)

called Goldberg's source but in fact this is a copy of Millard's source and has more tape hiss, better clarity and instrument separation (sometimes incorrectly attributed as 1st gen)

1st source, The Song Remains The Same cut

1st source, sounds a bit brighter than the 1st gen but gets very hissy because of it - the 1st gen has little hiss while this one, runs noticeably too slow but has the complete The Song Remains The Same

color amateur video taken from two different cameras with and without actual sound (shot by a roadie)

called Mike Millard source (AKG mics>Nakamichi Deck>master cassette)*

called Mike Millard source (AKG mics>Nakamichi Deck>master cassette>1st gen VHS)

called Goldberg's source but in fact this is a copy of Millard's source and has more tape hiss, better clarity and instrument separation

Date	Venue	Generation	Lenght	Source	Comments
77/04/01	Dallas	unknown gen	?	aud	supposed to be from different night
77/04/03	Oklahoma City	master	180	aud	taped by Terry Coppage (Sony TC-55>external mic>master cassette) (at least two clones are available: one clocks at 180:21 while the second at 178:59)
77/04/03	Oklahoma City	2nd gen	180	aud	-
77/04/06	Chicago	1st gen	171	aud	Panasonic recorder>master cassette>1st gen cassette, Trampled Underfoot cut at the beginning (recorded from 12th row)
77/04/06	Chicago	2nd gen	177	aud	Trampled Underfoot cut at the beginning (recorded from 12th row)
77/04/06	Chicago	3rd gen	176	aud	w/complete Trampled Underfoot (still suspended) (recorded from 12th row)
77/04/07	Chicago	master	121	aud	master cassette (the lenght is quite suspended)
77/04/07	Chicago	1st gen	101	aud	master cassette>1st gen reel
77/04/07	Chicago	5th gen	?	aud	-
77/04/09	Chicago	1st gen	60	aud	1st source, master>1st gen Maxell XLII60 cassette
77/04/09	Chicago	2nd gen	60	aud	1st source
77/04/09	Chicago	3rd gen	Near 59	aud	1st source
77/04/09	Chicago	1st gen	62	aud	2nd source (available as a 1st gen that has has better low end and fullness and also has correct speed (clocks at 62:33) and as a master cassette>1st gen cassette that runs a bit fast and is brighter with better highs (clocks at 59:09))
77/04/09	Chicago	4th gen	61	aud	2nd source
77/04/09	Chicago	unknown gen	Almost 17	aud	color amateur video with actual sound
77/04/10	Chicago	1st gen	Near 149	aud	1st source, 1st gen cassette
77/04/10	Chicago	3rd gen	153	aud	1st source, missing Rock And Roll
77/04/10	Chicago	unknown gen	151	aud	1st source, missing Rock And Roll
77/04/10	Chicago	master	76	aud	2nd source
77/04/10	Chicago	1st gen	80	aud	2nd source (Darrin Muggli?)
77/04/10	Chicago	2nd gen	80	aud	2nd source, 2nd gen cassette
77/04/10	Chicago	unknown gen	4	aud	color amateur video without actual sound
77/04/19	Cincinnati	master?	96	aud	cannot be sure if master really exists
77/04/19	Cincinnati	1st gen	95	aud	1st gen cassette
77/04/19	Cincinnati	2nd gen	Near 96	aud	master>1st gen cassette>2nd gen 120 minute cassette (also available as Presence (Jason Peterson) clone)
77/04/19	Cincinnati	3rd gen	60	aud	-
77/04/20	Cincinnati	3rd gen	99	aud	1st source, master>1st gen>2nd gen>3rd gen cassette (also available as Presence (Jason Peterson) clone)
77/04/20	Cincinnati	1st gen	Almost 41	aud	2nd source, 1st gen cassette
77/04/23	Atlanta	1st gen	177	aud	-
77/04/23	Atlanta	2nd gen	180	aud	2nd gen cassette
77/04/25	Louisville	1st gen	Almost 166	aud	taped by Roy Nall (aka BonhamFan), master cassettes>1st gen taper's back-up cassettes
77/04/27	Cleveland	1st gen	Near 166	sbd	master cassette>1st gen Maxell XLII reels. The owner of 1st gen copy said that these reels were lend to him by another guy. That guy noted: "[ hidden ] and I would coach the Seattle Kingdome video director [ hidden ] on songs to be played at upcoming major shows. Basically he was 'studying up' on song placement and solos to be expected. Having worked at both the Superdome and in Cleveland, N. W. had friends at other venues. He simply asked a friend working the show in Cleveland to get him a copy of the show and fire it off to us in Seattle. The guy brought in his home deck, walked up to the board, and being on the crew they plugged him in. Just that simple. These reels are a direct copy of the master cassettes done in the early 1980’s on a brand new Akai GX-77 reel deck using Maxell XLII tape at 7.5 ips and the rare EE equalization that the tape required. I personally have a better trust in this source than I do in the actual masters now. The masters still exist, but they aren’t going in the mail, and after so many years I just think that 7.5 ips quarter inch reels are the best way to go." Also reported that these reels were used during the 1977 tour by the sound team for many soundchecks. (also available as Presence (Jason Peterson) clone)
77/04/28	Cleveland	master?	165	aud	cassette, not confirmed it is really a master or not and also runs a bit slow (the reason for cuts is because taper only had 60min. tapes)
77/04/28	Cleveland	2nd gen	165?	aud	runs a bit slow (master cassette>1st gen cassette>2nd gen cassette) (also available as Presence (Jason Peterson) clone)
77/04/30	Pontiac	2nd gen	172	aud	Available as a 2nd gen cassette that runs a bit slow (clocks at 179:14) and as a 2nd gen with a fuller sound and correct speed (clocks at 172:37).
77/05/18	Birmingham	master	168	aud	1st source, taped by Terry Coppage (Sony TC-55>external mic>master cassette)
77/05/18	Birmingham	1st gen	171	aud	1st source, taped by Terry Coppage, runs a bit slow? (1st gen cassette)
77/05/18	Birmingham	master	171	aud	2nd source (the lenght should be longer so it's supsended if real master really still exists or it's due to the old transfer as 2nd gen)
77/05/18	Birmingham	2nd gen	184	aud	2nd source, master>1st gen cassette>2nd gen cassette (this a new 2007 transfer - the old transfer is February 2004 and clocks at 165:16)
77/05/18	Birmingham	unknown gen	Almost 10	aud	color amateur video with actual sound (the official DVD has a snippet of this clip in the credits video)
77/05/19	Baton Rouge	unknown gen	Near 13	aud	color amateur video without actual sound
77/05/21	Houston	1st gen?	184	sbd	-
77/05/22	Fort Worth	master	60	aud	1st source
77/05/22	Fort Worth	3rd gen	62	aud	1st source
77/05/22	Fort Worth	2nd gen	72	aud	2nd source, 1st gen cassette>2nd gen cassette
77/05/22	Fort Worth	2nd gen	103	aud	3rd source, 1st gen cassette>2nd gen cassette
77/05/25	Landover	master	Almost 182	aud	Phillips handheld w/int cond mic>TDK D120 master cassette
77/05/25	Landover	2nd gen	178	aud	-
77/05/26	Landover	master	193	aud	Philips handheld w/int cond mic>TDK D120 master cassette
77/05/26	Landover	1st gen?	180	sbd	house mix
77/05/26	Landover	1st gen	38	sbd	monitor mix (master>1st gen cassette) (also available as Presence (Jason Peterson) clone)
77/05/28	Landover	master	191	aud	Philips handheld w/int cond mic>TDK D120 master cassette
77/05/28	Landover	1st gen?	184	sbd	-
77/05/30	Landover	master	Near 186	aud	Taped by Randy?, Phillips handheld w/int cond mic>Maxwell master cassette. Some sources reported to be not from the master. There is another version of this master thats 17 seconds longer. Also it was told that the far better quality is due to the better tapes than all three Landover shows, runs a bit slow.
77/06/03	Tampa	master	21	aud	1st source, Cal's source
77/06/03	Tampa	master	18	aud	2nd source, John T's source
77/06/03	Tampa	master	17	aud	3rd source, Aiwa mics>Marantz master cassette
77/06/07	New York	master	175	aud	1st source, Artie's source (Sony TC-120 cassette) (reported to be not the master)
77/06/07	New York	1st gen	173	aud	1st source, Artie's source
77/06/07	New York	2nd gen	178	aud	2nd source, runs a bit fast
77/06/07	New York	3rd gen	172	aud	2nd source
77/06/08	New York	unknown gen	212	aud	1st source, Type II cassette (the lenght is very supsended, it could be clocks at 189 mins.)
77/06/08	New York	master	?	aud	2nd source
77/06/08	New York	1st gen	119	aud	2nd source
77/06/08	New York	3rd gen	117	aud	2nd source, 3rd gen cassette
77/06/08	New York	3rd gen	117	aud	2nd source, 3rd gen cassette
77/06/10	New York	1st gen	215	aud	1st source, Artie's source (1st gen cassette) (originally it was taped on two separate cassettes and each side has a large amount of blank space after recording, but music clocks at 184 mins.)
77/06/10	New York	1st gen	126	aud	2nd source, 1st gen cassette
77/06/10	New York	unknown gen	152	aud	3rd source, cassette
77/06/10	New York	unknown gen	3	aud	color amateur video with actual sound
77/06/11	New York	master	126	aud	1st source, Panasonic RQ314S w/built-in condenser mic>TDK C-120 master cassette
77/06/11	New York	unknown low gen	170	aud	2nd source, Type I cassette (Sean is the owner of this low tape)
77/06/11	New York	2nd gen	180	aud	3rd source (2nd gen cassette) (originally it was taped on two Maxell XLII 90 cassettes and each side has some amount of blank space after recording, music clocks at 175 mins.)
77/06/11	New York	3rd gen	175	aud	3rd source, 2nd gen cassette>3rd gen VHS. The owner of the tape repaired channel problems in No Quarter and Ten Years Gone by turning the missing sections into mono.
77/06/11	New York	1st gen	45	sbd	-
77/06/11	New York	unknown gen	30	aud	color amateur video with actual sound (the end of Heartbreaker is available here with both picture and sound while there is no audience recording circulating for this part of the show)
77/06/13	New York	1st gen	190	aud	1st source, Artie's source (available as a Sony TC-120>master cassette>1st gen cassette (clocks at 190:39) and as a Sony TC-120>master cassette>1st gen cassette that is much clearer and 4 minutes shorter (clocks at 186:32))
77/06/13	New York	2nd gen	190	aud	1st source, Artie's source (Sony TC-120>master cassette>2nd gen cassette
77/06/13	New York	master	Near 137	aud	2nd source, taped by Tom Stanko (the old transfer had speed starts off good but goes slower as the show progresses but newly clone by Presence (Jason Peterson) has proper speed and is a big improvement over the old one). Per taper Moby Dick, Guitar Solo, Achilles Last Stand and Heartbreaker were recorded but they have been lost immediatley.
77/06/13	New York	unknown gen	58	aud	color amateur video with actual sound
77/06/14	New York	1st gen	Almost 118	aud	1st gen cassette
77/06/14	New York	2nd gen	121	aud	2nd gen AXIA PS2 high bias 90's cassette (sounds a bit brighter with more bass but also more distant than 1st gen)
77/06/14	New York	unknown gen	117	aud	Type I Cass (it slightly better than the 2nd gen and has alos a much better high end and runs fast)
77/06/14	New York	unknown gen	30	aud	1st move, color amateur video with actual sound (Whole Lotta Love and Rock And Roll are not available on any audio bootleg while here we have them with both picture and sound)
77/06/14	New York	unknown gen	7	aud	2nd movie, color amateur video with and without actual sound
77/06/19	San Diego	master	164	aud	taped by Mike Millard (AKG mics>Nakamichi Deck>master cassette)*
77/06/19	San Diego	1st gen	Near 162	aud	taped by Mike Millard (available as a AKG Mics>Nakamichi Deck>master cassette>1st gen cassette straight from a guy that purchased the 1st gen cassette from a close friend of the taper (clocks at 157:15), as a AKG mics>Nakamichi Deck>master cassette>1st gen VHS (clocks at 161:13) and as a AKG mics>Nakamichi Deck>master cassette>1st gen VHS (clocks at 161:48) - both 1st gen VHS clones are more distant and mudded than 1st gen cassette)
77/06/19	San Diego	2nd gen	160	aud	taped by Mike Millard
77/06/21	Los Angeles	master	196	aud	1st source, called Mike Millard source (AKG mics>Nakamichi Deck>master cassette)*
77/06/21	Los Angeles	1st gen	196	aud	1st source, called Mike Millard source (AKG mics>Nakamichi Deck>master cassette>1st gen Maxwell XLII 90 cassette
77/06/21	Los Angeles	unknown gen	?	aud	2nd source
77/06/22	Los Angeles	1st gen	45	aud	1st source, called Carl Gabe source (cassette)
77/06/22	Los Angeles	unknown gen	?	aud	2nd source, called Barry Goldberg source (cassette)
77/06/22	Los Angeles	unknown gen	?	aud	3rd source, called E. F. source (cassette)
77/06/22	Los Angeles	unknown gen	8	aud	4th source
77/06/22	Los Angeles	unknown gen	8	aud	color amateur video without actual sound
77/06/23	Los Angeles	vinyl	173	aud	1st source, original master tapes have been lost (the first two songs have some channel problems)
77/06/23	Los Angeles	master	168	aud	2nd source, called Mike Millard source (AKG mics>Nakamichi Deck>master cassette) (reported that the show is incomplete because Mike forgot to press record until Since I've Been Loving You)*
77/06/23	Los Angeles	1st gen	167	aud	2nd source, called Mike Millard source (AKG mics>Nakamichi Deck>master cassette>1st gen VHS) (reported that the show is incomplete because Mike forgot to press record until Since I've Been Loving You)
77/06/23	Los Angeles	2nd gen	181	aud	3rd source, called Carl Gabe source
77/06/23	Los Angeles	2nd gen	189	aud	4th source, called Barry Goldberg source (cassette)
77/06/23	Los Angeles	2nd gen	Near 76	aud	5th source
77/06/23	Los Angeles	unknown gen	?	sbd	6th source (can merely be a mislabeled version of one of the other known sources)
77/06/23	Los Angeles	unknown gen	?	aud	7th source, published by Presence (Jason Peterson)
77/06/23	Los Angeles	unknown gen	11	aud	1st movie, color amateur video without actual sound
77/06/23	Los Angeles	unknown gen	12	aud	2nd movie, color amateur video without actual sound
77/06/25	Los Angeles	master	212	aud	called Mike Millard source (AKG mics>Nakamichi Deck>master cassette)*
77/06/25	Los Angeles	1st gen	210	aud	called Mike Millard source (AKG mics>Nakamichi Deck>master cassette>1st gen VHS) (at least 3 different 1st gen clones are available and the speed varies a bit between them)
77/06/25	Los Angeles	unknown gen	154	aud	called Goldberg's source but in fact this is a copy of Millard's source and has more tape hiss, better clarity and instrument separation (sometimes incorrectly attributed as 1st gen)
77/06/26	Los Angeles	1st gen	190	aud	1st source, The Song Remains The Same cut
77/06/26	Los Angeles	2nd gen	Almost 191	aud	1st source, sounds a bit brighter than the 1st gen but gets very hissy because of it - the 1st gen has little hiss while this one, runs noticeably too slow but has the complete The Song Remains The Same
77/06/26	Los Angeles	3rd gen	189	aud	1st source
77/06/26	Los Angeles	unknown gen	?	aud	2nd source
77/06/26	Los Angeles	unknown gen	21	aud	color amateur video taken from two different cameras with and without actual sound (shot by a roadie)
77/06/27	Los Angeles	master	222	aud	called Mike Millard source (AKG mics>Nakamichi Deck>master cassette)*
77/06/27	Los Angeles	1st gen	219	aud	called Mike Millard source (AKG mics>Nakamichi Deck>master cassette>1st gen VHS)
77/06/27	Los Angeles	unknown gen	184	aud	called Goldberg's source but in fact this is a copy of Millard's source and has more tape hiss, better clarity and instrument separation
77/07/17